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🗓️ 10 February 2020
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Jon takes on David French, Joe Carter, and Arthur Brooks as they accuse Christian Trump supporters of "hiring someone [Trump] to hate them [Liberals] for you." NeverTrump evangelicals seem to assume a distorted view of love and use it to claim moral high-ground, when in reality they make a fundamental mistake. Also, AD Robles joins Jon for a discussion about common social justice objections.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Conversations, the Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. |
0:05.5 | Got two topics to get to today. I'm going to be shooting from the hip a little on the |
0:09.2 | first one and we're going to be opening our Bibles, which is always good. |
0:11.7 | And what I'm going to do is I'm going to |
0:14.3 | examine something that was written by David French and Joe Carter retweeted it |
0:18.8 | it's kind of a never Trumper article and you know I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 I've said this but I know a lot of people who did and |
0:28.0 | David French seems to insinuate that the reason that Trump supporters that are evangelical voted for him is |
0:33.7 | because they just want to hire someone else to do their dirty work. You know they |
0:36.4 | can't hate because they're Christians but they'll hire someone to hate. And I got so |
0:40.4 | many bones to pick up this article I'm not going to get to all of them but I just want you to be prepared I'm |
0:44.6 | making it for you honestly those who supported Trump and and or will support Trump |
0:49.2 | this time around and in this in the sense of voting for him I just am well aware of the fact that people like David French can come to you from a posturing of a moral high ground and say you know this is why you're doing what you're doing. |
1:04.8 | And I just don't think it's right. |
1:06.5 | And I'm going to show you some things. |
1:07.7 | And the other thing that's concerning me about this article is that it seems to be on such a |
1:13.2 | theologically weak level it's just it's surprising to me |
1:17.9 | Joe Carter retweets it loves it and this is a guy who is a pastor at |
1:21.5 | David Platts church and yet it seems to be on just such a |
1:25.2 | theologically weak foundation and so I want to point that out to you give you some ammunition in case |
1:30.2 | someone starts shooting at you because you're going to vote for Trump or |
1:34.2 | something like that. You know my motive and not voting for Trump my main motive |
1:37.6 | I mean I saw some of the concerns that I think a David French and a Joe Carter have |
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