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Neely Patel, editor-in-chief-of-the- Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

Today, we're talking about the landmark social media addiction trials that just resulted in two major verdicts against Meta and Google.

There's one case in New Mexico against meta, and another in California against both companies, who both have said they plan to appeal.

These are complicated cases with some

huge repercussions for how these platforms work and the very nature of speech in America. So to help

us work through it all, I've brought on two heavy hitters. My friend Casey Newton, the founder and

editor of the excellent newsletter platformer and co-host of the Hartford podcast, as well as Verge Senior

Policy Reporter Lauren Feiner, who is actually in that Los Angeles courtroom where executives newsletter platformer and co-host of the Hard Fork podcast, as well as Verge Senior Policy

Reporter Lauren Feiner, who was actually in that Los Angeles courtroom where executives like

Mark Zuckerberg took the stand in the case of a 20-year-old woman named Kaylee, who successfully

argued that META and Google negligently designed their platforms in ways that contributed to her

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