A Jury Said No. Mike Johnson Said “Probably.”
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🗓️ 11 February 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my bulwark colleague, Andrew Egger, author of the Morning |
| 0:05.6 | Shots newsletter. Hit like, hit subscribe, follow the channel. We got big news overnight where it |
| 0:11.8 | turns out that the Department of Justice attempted to indict six lawmakers who had put together |
| 0:17.8 | a little video saying, uh, hey, just a, if you are part of the U.S. |
| 0:22.4 | Intelligence Committee or the Armed Forces, you have sworn an oath to not obey illegal |
| 0:28.0 | orders. And the Department of Justice attempted to secure criminal indictments against them |
| 0:33.3 | and were rejected by grand juries. |
| 0:40.6 | Andrew, there's a lot to talk about here. |
| 0:42.9 | And if we wanted to start with the hopeful stuff, |
| 0:46.8 | we would talk about how it turns out that the criminal justice system is being way more resilient to authoritarianism than, say, like, |
| 0:52.2 | the university system or the business community or even |
| 0:56.2 | normal politicians. |
| 0:58.8 | We'll do that second. |
| 1:00.4 | I'd like to start with the bad stuff, though. |
| 1:03.4 | There are a bunch of people who have been sitting on the sidelines being like, well, I'm |
| 1:07.5 | waiting to see if we cross any real red lines. |
| 1:10.6 | It seems like an attempt to criminally prosecute opposition lawmakers for saying that people should obey the Constitution might be a red line, even if it failed. |
| 1:23.6 | Yeah, it's not a great situation. |
| 1:25.8 | I mean, it really speaks to how insane this entire storyline |
| 1:31.3 | around these six lawmakers has been that by some metrics, you might call this only the third |
| 1:37.9 | most insane sort of development in this story. Right after they released that video, I'm sure |
| 1:43.4 | you remember, Donald Trump had maybe his biggest, like, truth social bender of all time where he was retweeting |
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