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A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

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Welcome to the History Extra podcast. Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History

Magazine and BBC History revealed.

In 1946, Churchill declared that from Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain

has descended across the continent. But what exactly

did that rhetorical border look like during the Cold War? And what's happening along it today?

Well, in his new book The Curtain and the Wall, Timothy Phillips has written about his experience

travelling the length of the border

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