Hello world, welcome back to the Breakout Finder podcast.

I'm your original host Nate Liss, you can find me on Twitter at an outrage, you and

back with me again is Mr Ryan Loeb.

So you can find him on Twitter at still Ryan five.

Ryan, this is like a throwback for people because now you and I, we podcast all the time

in the background, you know, constantly working on things.

Once upon a time, I was a part of this show.

I have since moved on to do some different things and Ray Garvin, absolute legend.

I mean, nobody's ascension has done has been more steep than Ray's, right?

It's done.

I mean, it's, it's like the ladder that I hang the Christmas lights from the gun.

It's straight up and down.

Yeah, I want to, I want to like sit over on the mic for a little bit and kind of sap and

say, oh man, you know, Nate, it's, it's been so long, buddy, but the reality is like you

said, we, we talk daily if not weekly and we're on a show weekly, you know, you, you and I

stay busy, you know, whether it's on, you know, through your Patreon or, or other little

projects we have going on the side.

So it's not like just because you're not in this chair and you're not, you're not piloting

the, the, the breakout finder podcast ship.

It doesn't mean that, that, that you and I are, are too distant.

So I can't imagine anyone was worried about that, but if they were, that is, that's where

things sit.

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