A.I. Vibe Check With Ezra Klein + Kevin Tries Phone Positivity

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.3 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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The New York Times Opinion columnist Ezra Klein has spent years talking to artificial intelligence researchers. Many of them feel the prospect of A.I. discovery is too sweet to ignore, regardless of the technology’s risks. Today, Mr. Klein discusses the profound changes that an A.I.-powered world will create, how current business models are failing to meet the A.I. moment, and the steps government can take to achieve a positive A.I. future. Also, radical acceptance of your phone addiction may just help your phone addiction.

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0:00.0	One interesting thing about the culture of AI is that like it's just sort of a casual
0:05.3	icebreaker like at a party or something people will come up to and say what are your timelines?
0:09.6	Yeah, by which they mean like how long do you think we have until AI destroys the world?
0:14.8	Which in most parts of the world would be a very strange way to open a conversation with
0:18.9	a stranger you just met but in San Francisco these days it's pretty normal.
0:22.3	How you get to a first date like our timeline similar.
0:25.6	Oh, you're more of a 20 year person. I'm more of a three year person.
0:30.2	This isn't gonna work.
0:36.0	I'm Kevin Russe. I'm a tech college at The New York Times.
0:38.1	I'm Casey Newton from Platformer. This week we do an AI vibe check with New York Times
0:42.4	columnist Ezra Klein.
0:44.0	And why Kevin is breaking his phone out of phone jail?
0:55.6	You know Kevin, I love a crossover episode. Like do you remember when the Flintstones met the Jensen's?
1:17.3	You do. You actually probably our listeners don't because they were born in 2009 and they've been
1:22.2	assigned this podcast in their freshman English class.
1:25.1	But ask your parents and grandparents about it because it used to be that characters from
1:30.3	different sort of cinematic universes would come together in a kind of killer crossover
1:34.3	and I'm delighted to tell you we have one of those for you today here on our fork.
1:37.3	We do.
1:38.3	And let's say who it is. It's Ezra Klein.
1:39.8	It's Ezra Klein. Ezra Klein is at my college at The New York Times. He's an opinion columnist
1:43.8	and has a podcast called the Ezra Klein Show.
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