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I Hey, everyone, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Bjorn Lomborg.

I met Bjorn, he probably doesn't remember this, but I met him many, many years ago at Andrew Breitbart's house.

He brought, Andrew brought Bjorn over to talk in L.A.

And I listened to him talking about all the simple and inexpensive things that could be done to make actual change and do actual good in terms of climate change, which I think at that point was still global warming.

And I actually asked him the question, you know, we had a small audience and I asked the question,

well, if these are so such smart, cheap ideas, why don't politicians do them? And Bjorn said,

well, because they wouldn't give them the chance, that wouldn't give them the chance to display their virtue.

And I thought, here's a man who not only knows about science, but actually knows about human nature. And I've been following him ever since.

He is a president of the Copenhagen Consensus Center, a visiting fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, an author of False Alarm, and Best Things First, the best writer, I think, on

climate issues and other issues.

Bjorn, it's good to see you.

Andrew, it's great to be here.

And I do remember that event, although I remember it for seeing the guy who played on airplane

at that.

Sorry, so I remember that because it's still one of my favorite movies.

It's one of the greatest movies ever made, I think.

It's gone with the wind.

It's very, very funny.

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