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Is this the first time we've had like multiple dudes on the show that neither of us are in a romantic relationship with?

Okay, Luke, none of us are in.

No, I said multiple dudes.

Multiple.

I was going to say, hold on, there's been many.

Geez.

Yes, actually, because the only other time we've had multiple guys on, it's been our husbands.

And like guy panels, you know, but like a husband is involved.

Right, right, true.

Well, and it's funny because these two guys, whom I'll introduce in a second, have had Avery on their podcast twice already. So this is kind of like, pay up. Long overdue.

They had to win them all the good. Uh-huh. So y'all, today we're going to have Alex and Ryan on. They're two of Avery's closest friends here in

Auburn, Alabama. And I'm really good friends with their wives. They're a part of our

close group of friends here. And the reason why we have them on the podcast is because

our stay-at-home mom episode was really popular in the realm of like women listeners, but also there were a lot of

questions about like, I'd love to hear a dad's take or a husband's take on how they had that.

They made that decision like as a couple or what the husbands thought of it or like if they grew up

with like a good idea of a stay at home mom or if they never

had one so they didn't value it or just the whole slew of questions in regards to the dad,

the husband, the provider and what that conversation looked like when they made that decision.

And so I was like, I know the two perfect guys for this because they just went through it

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