Jackie Hill Perry wanted out of her lesbian lifestyle,

but she also knew she couldn't do it on her own.

It just felt like an impossible feat to try to not like women,

to try to not engage in relationships, to try to not act out in anger,

to try to not watch pornography, like how do you stop doing this stuff

when you don't have the capacity to?

And that's why I needed the Holy Spirit.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Wogglemouth, author of Lies Women Believe, for April 2nd, 2018.

Thank you. 2018. If you have kids at home, you'll want to know that this week's series includes some mature

themes, but it also includes the wonder of the gospel and a transformed life. Here's Nancy. Well, our guest today is a woman

that I've wanted our audience to meet for a long time, and I'm so thankful, Jackie Hill Perry,

that you're here in the studio with us today. Finally, we've been talking about this for, I don't know,

maybe even a year or so. And thanks so much for being on

Revive Our Hearts today. Thank you, Nancy. Jackie Hill Perry, when I first met you, you were

Jackie Hill. Now you've got a Perry added to that, and we're going to talk about that journey

that you've been on. Jackie is a poet. She's a speaker. She's an artist. You can find her on Twitter

at at Jackie Hill Perry. And Jackie, I enjoy, I only follow 32 people on Twitter. And you're one of them because I love your heart. I love what you say. And I've loved watching your journey over a number of years now. And I think one of the first times I ever kind of identified with who you were, because

honestly, I'm kind of not into the hip-hop movement genre, and I didn't know what your spoken

word poetry was at the time. I love it now. But I started hearing about this woman who was

engaged to this guy, or they were in a courtship, and then they got engaged.

And you guys were chronicling this on video and posting it. And I just remember being so touched by your openness, your honesty, what God was doing in you and Preston. And we connected through Twitter, actually.

And I've really enjoyed your friendship, and I'm so thankful for our listeners to hear your

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