A Hostage Deal — with Haviv Rettig Gur & Nadav Eyal

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

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🗓️ 8 July 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/vehsrjpx *** Before today’s conversation, one housekeeping note. We are announcing our second "Call Me Back Live" Event. I will be talking to creators of Fauda -- Avi Issacharoff and Lior Raz. They are scripting OCTOBER 7th, a feature film on the heroic true story of Noam Tibon, who rescued his son Amir Tibon, a Haaretz journalist, and his young family, from Hamas terrorists who had invaded their home at Kibbutz Nahal Oz. Issacharoff is also is a war correspondent who has been embedded with the IDF in Gaza. The event is July 22 at 6pm in NYC at the Comedy Cellar. Part of the proceeds will be donated to Leket, Israel’s leading food rescue organization, which has played a critical role working with farmers and kibbutizm in the Gaza envelope since 10/07. To RSVP, please go to comedycellar.com, click the "lineups" button on the top left and select "July 22". Now onto today’s conversation. How close is Israel to reaching a hostage deal with Hamas and – with that – a temporary ceasefire that could possibly become a permanent ceasefire? And why does this negotiations process have direct implications for Israel’s Northern border, between Hezbollah and Israel? Could a Gaza ceasefire result in a de-escalation on Israel’s Northern border? To help us understand what’s going on here, we have two guests today: -Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediot. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news. -Haviv Rettig-Gur has been a regular presence on this podcast since October 8. He is a senior political analyst for the Times of Israel, and has been an important interpreter for Western audiences of how to understand this conflict in broader historical terms. Speech by Nadav Eyal discussed on this episode: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9IUmVwtRZV/?igsh=MW95bXpyZ2hhdm4xNA==

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0:00.0	Three months ago Israel had much less of an achievement in the battlefield of Gaza
0:06.8	and Hamas positions were much closer to the positions of Israel.
0:10.6	And as the war became longer and longer, Israel had to come closer and of Israel.
0:13.6	had to come closer and closer to the positions of Hamas.
0:17.6	And the Israeli idea definitely defense apparatus are doing a pretty good job according to experts to urban warfare and military historians
0:26.4	and they're saying you're doing a pretty good job.
0:28.7	On the other hand, our political leadership is doing the kind of a job, but at the end, strategically speaking,
0:35.2	if you look at the positions made by Israel in the negotiations with Hamas,
0:39.6	you see that we're in a process in which we are going weaker, weaker politically while winning to an
0:47.5	extent militarily speaking and because of that we need this pose. It's 5 p on Sunday, July 7th, here in London, where a new government takes office and where I am today.
1:09.0	It's 7 o'clock PM on July 7th in Israel, where our two guests are today, although in two different
1:16.0	parts of Israel, and it's 12 o'clock PM on July 7th in New York City.
1:21.3	For today's conversation, one housekeeping note.
1:23.5	I am thrilled to announce our second Call Me Back live event, this one in New York City as well.
1:29.9	At that event, I will be talking to the creators of Fowa, Avia Sakharov and Lior Raz.
1:35.2	Avi and Lior are currently scripting a feature film called October 7th on the heroic and true story
1:42.0	of Noam Tibbon, who rescued his son Amir Tibbon, and Amir's wife and
1:47.1	their young family from Hamas terrorists who had
1:53.6	their home at Kibbutz Nahal Oz on October 7th.
1:55.1	Avi has also, with his journalist hat on, spent time in Gaza embedded with the IDF
2:01.1	covering the war.
2:02.1	So there'll be a lot to talk about with Avian Leor
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