Hello, I'm Rory Stewart, and I'd like to tell you about an intelligent squared event

I'm doing with the classicist author and broadcaster Mary Beard. Together we'll be discussing

politics and power from the Caesars to Sunak, who gets to Winpar, who is excluded. Does power

always corrupt or other examples of leaders who've maintained their integrity while an authority?

And how does the nature of power vary across different times and cultures? These are just some of

the questions that Mary and I will be trying to answer. In person tickets are now sold out,

but you can still watch online on the 13th of November at 7pm BST. Put your questions

to us live as we discuss power and politics down the edges.

Welcome to Intelligent Squared. I'm senior producer Connor Boyle. Today on the podcast Anabel Hirsch,

the writer and author whose recent book is a history of women in 101 objects. The book covers

items found across millennia, ranging from cave paintings from 20,000 BC through a ring owned

by Kim Kardashian. Hirsch is joined in conversation today by the journalist, crime podcaster and

screenwriter Poppy Damon, co-creator of Murder Abilia, a podcast about the collection of true crime

objects unaudible. If you want to listen to this ad free and enjoy more member perks,

then do become a member on IntelligentSquared.com slash membership or subscribe on Apple podcasts.

Now let's join Anabel Hirsch and Poppy Damon in conversation.

Today we're talking history, both ancient and modern, and more specifically how the objects

we create, cover it and eventually part with Tell Our Story. Anabel Hirsch's recent book is a

history of women in 101 objects. Hirsch doesn't strictly define herself as a historian. She's a

journalist for titles such as The Frankerta Adamine Zaytung and studied art history, theatre and

philosophy before building her career in writing. She recently described this book to a UK newspaper

as a walkthrough time so that you can get a sense, I hope, that women's progress was not linear

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