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I kind of just want to say like I know you guys have gotten a lot like a lot of

information you've heard a lot of things and we know that this may resonate like we know that beyond this conversation

there might be some people who this really resonates with that they really want to know how to kind of break out of break out of this cycle. And so we want to be like practical as well.

We want to make sure that you walk away with tangible solutions, right? Like things that you can actually

do, people that you can reach out to, and a concrete way for you to move forward if that's what you

really desire. Like if you see yourself and you really

want to make that change we want to make sure that you walk away feeling

empowered to do that in that yeah and also you know we want to the narrative. We want men to be able to talk to men.

We want you to be able to, you know, reach out to help for help. Like I know a lot of men feel uncomfortable talking to other men about their problems and I think that's why it's

important to have Dayton here and we want to break that you know idea we want to

like unmasked the silence we want to get you out talking.

And so how do you talk to another man about like abuse, like being a domestic violence type person.

That doesn't seem like the easiest thing to do.

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