A history of Ukraine and Russia
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 7 October 2022
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Historian Orlando Figes explains why the mythologising of Russia’s past is crucial to understanding Putin’s world view and aspirations for his country.
We have an update on Alice – the little girl who was separated from her mother when the Azovstal steelworks were evacuated. One her fifth birthday she got a phone call from her mum, who is being held prisoner by Russians.
Russian lawyer Mikhail Benyash says young men and their families are turning to him to try to avoid being forced to fight in Ukraine.
And President Zelensky explains what he meant when he talked about pre-emptive strikes on Russia.
Today’s episode is presented by Gabriel Gatehouse and Vitaly Shevchenko.
The series producer is Estelle Doyle. The producers are Ivana Davidovic and Arsenii Sokolov. The planning producer is Louise Hidalgo. The technical producer, Michael Regaard. The assistant editor, Alison Gee. And the editor is Jonathan Aspinwall. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:04.8 | Hello, it's 226 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:11.8 | Good morning, everyone. |
| 0:14.0 | The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 2022 |
| 0:23.8 | to one individual and two organizations. |
| 0:28.6 | And I think we're going to start today with a quick discussion about the Nobel Peace Prize |
| 0:33.4 | because it's been awarded to an individual and two organizations in Belarus, in Russia, |
| 0:41.4 | and in Ukraine. |
| 0:43.1 | The individual in Belarus is called Aless Belatsky. |
| 0:49.6 | And he's in jail. |
| 0:51.4 | He's in jail and you can call him, well, one of the main opponents of the |
| 0:58.4 | authoritarian leader of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko. |
| 1:02.8 | In Russia, I think everybody knows why Memorial, the organization that got awarded the |
| 1:08.7 | Peace Prize, why it got it. |
| 1:11.2 | So Memorial is this organization that was set up in the Dying Days of the Soviet Union |
| 1:16.0 | specifically to honor and keep alive historical memory, the historical memory of repressions |
| 1:24.8 | and human rights abuses carried out in the Soviet Union. |
| 1:29.6 | And it's an organization that has now been banned in Russia by Putin. |
| 1:35.0 | Which in itself, again, is symbolic. |
| 1:38.7 | So we've got this Belarusian activist who's in jail, we've got this famous Russian |
| 1:43.7 | organization that's banned in Russia. |
| 1:46.9 | And in Ukraine, the third part of the equation, an organization called The Center for Civil |
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