Welcome back to the Ten Blocks podcast. This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City Journal. Joining me on the show

today is Nicole Jelineas, a friend who's been on many, many times. She's a senior fellow at the

Manhattan Institute, a longtime contributing editor of City Journal, and a columnist for the New York Post.

She writes often on urban economics, infrastructure, and finance.

Her works appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, LA Times, other publications.

Today, though, we're going to be discussing her new book, Movement, New York's Long War to

Take Back its Streets from the Car.

It's a really important book and thrilled to be able to talk about it.

So Nicole, thanks very much for joining us.

Likewise, Ryan, happy New Year to everyone, and thanks for having me Beth on.

Yeah, well, happy New Year, absolutely.

So, you know, I have to say, I've been working with you for many years,

but movement is really a monumental achievement.

So first, congratulations on the book.

Thank you, Brian.

You know, you've been writing about transit in New York for many years now, including in City Journal's pages.

And the book is, in a lot of ways, a culmination of all of those years of work, research, and thinking about these important issues.

So tell us a bit about your work on the book, how you conceived of the narrative, and maybe

what surprised you in doing the research on it. Sure, absolutely. And I also want to say I really

appreciate everything that the people at the Manhattan Institute and City

Journal have done to support the book, including in the many years of research and tree research.

So what gave me the idea for the book is that I noticed over the years everyone kind of get stuck

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