Hello, you're listening to We Are History. I'm Angela Barnes.

And I'm John O'Farrell.

And John, you've picked today's subject.

Now, I don't know.

Very serious subject, very important subject, Joe.

It is a very serious subject, John.

And we all know you're sex mad.

So it's not a surprise that you've picked

this as a subject. But you wanted to talk about the history of contraception. I think it's,

I think it's, you know, not at all because I think there's a chance for lots of smutty jokes.

And some curile giggling at the back of history. I mean, so no, I thought that's a really

interesting thing that you don't hear much

about, you know, because all you hear about generally is you hear about kings and battles and treaties

and politicians, but the stuff that ordinary people were doing all the time and the things that

all the time. Oh, bloody, all the time in the old days. There's no Netflix John. There's nothing else to

do. You don't hear about that.

And the other thing about that is not really written down anywhere. So that's a challenge when

you're doing a history of a subject like this because, you know, it's too embarrassing to mention.

It's the same in our everyday lives now, of course. You don't go, how was your weekend?

You know, that's all right. I had a quite nice shag on Sunday after the archer's omnibus, you know.

Yeah, sending your letter home from boarding school,

dearest mother, we had a lovely game of soggy biscuit this morning.

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