Hey everybody, what's up? Welcome to the Michael Steel podcast. I'm Michael Steel, yes.

I'm still Republican. I know what y'all think and I know what you're thinking, but you

know what I said. I'm the guy with the motel six month logo. I'm out on the front porch with

the lights on, right? But I'm glad you guys could be with us. You know where to find me usually at

Apple, Tune in, download. You know how that goes. We love it when you do that stitcher and all that

good stuff. Make sure you check out the podcast whenever you can. I'm glad you're with us today. I'm

pretty excited to talk to my guest today. She is a storm chaser and a storm cause her.

She you know her. You've seen her around around the ways we like to say Maria Cardona is a seasoned

political and policy advocate and strategist. She has more than two decades and you wouldn't

believe it to look at her. I thought the sister was like 18. I love you Michael. Coming up

at gate. But she's got two decades of experience in the government, politics and public relations

community affairs arenas. She's recognized among the most influential Latinos in the country.

She's a principal at a Dewey square group leading the multicultural and public affairs practices

Maria is also known for her work as a political commentator and is currently a CNN and CNN

in a Spaniard political contributor. And she has appeared on my air over at MSNBC back in the day.

She's been at Fox like I was as well. Univision and Telamundo, prior to signing her exclusive

contract. But that's all right. We'll forgive you for that. But it's a pleasure having you on

board and in this conversation today. It just all right. So we just we just came off of the

vice presidential debate. And that was fun. Oh my goodness. You had a great piece though that

I recommend to our listeners in the hill entitled Harris Turns election into referendum on Trump's

character. Now why that headline is important and why would you wrote in the pieces important

because you use the word that I think is essential. And it's why I am with Joe Biden. You know,

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