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I'm Noah Feldman. This week, we talk about France. When we Americans hear the word French, we often think that the next word is supposed to

be revolution.

In our imagination, France is a place where the revolution didn't just happen in 1789, but

happens every so often, ever since.

Turns out the French think about themselves exactly the same way.

Starting last November, protesters wearing yellow safety vests began to block

rotaries and roundabouts all over France, and eventually they marched on Paris, where they

talked seriously and threw stones and made a protest about a whole range of economic issues

that were bothering them.

The protests continued, and the French President Emmanuel Macron was required to take

major steps in response. And since today is Bastille Day, the day that France celebrates

as the recognition of its own revolutionary independence, we thought this was a perfect time

to review the movement from beginning to end. To do that, we thought this was a perfect time to review the

movement from beginning to end. To do that, we're joined today by Agnes Poirier, a French journalist

based in the UK, who wrote a wonderful article about her uncle Jojo and his role in the

gilles-jeune or yellow vest protests.

Agnes, thank you so much for being with us.

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