A Happy Run Downward With James Finley

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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How can we live in solidarity with the pain of the world without being overwhelmed by it? In this episode, we’re joined once again by CAC Faculty member James Finley and an additional co-host from the CAC, Director of Mission Integration Drew Jackson. Together, we continue our chapter-by-chapter exploration of Eager to Love with Chapter 2: “A Happy Run Downward: The Inner Authority of Those Who Have Suffered.” This episode explores the themes of suffering as a path to compassion, the transformative power of mystical union, and the importance of finding solace in belovedness. Before Drew and Paul dive into the interview with Jim, Mike and Paul catch up with Richard at his hermitage to hear his reflections on the second chapter of Eager to Love. James Finley, a clinical psychologist and spiritual director, is one of the core faculty members of the Center for Action and Contemplation and is the host of our sister podcast on the CAC network, Turning to the Mystics. A former novice under Thomas Merton at the Abbey of Gethsemani, he is the author of the classic book Merton's Palace of Nowhere: A Search for God through Awareness of the True Self, The Contemplative Heart, and most recently, The Healing Path. Hosted by CAC Staff: Mike Petrow, Paul Swanson, and Drew Jackson Resources: A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here. Grab a copy of Eager to Love here. To learn more about James Finley, visit his CAC Faculty website here. Jim's latest book, The Healing Path, can be found here.

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.0	To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:07.7	Hey, everyone, welcome back to Everything Belongs.
0:10.8	This is episode two, and I am thrilled beyond belief to introduce you to one of our new co-hosts.
0:18.7	We'll be joining us for the Everything Belongs podcast.
0:21.6	And that is my colleague and friend, Drew Jackson, whose role at the CAC is the Director of Mission Integration.
0:29.6	And he is also a poet extraordinaire.
0:32.6	But Drew, welcome.
0:33.6	And let's begin first by what is a Director of Mission Integration?
0:39.0	Well, thanks for having me, Paul. It's so good to be here.
0:43.0	Director of Mission Integration just means that part of the responsibility that I hold within the
0:50.8	organization is to help us oversee our internal organizational culture.
0:57.2	And really, that's just a way of helping us think through how our interior life as an organization
1:04.3	is congruent with who we say we are externally.
1:08.0	And so it's all the little things that go into the interior culture life
1:15.6	of the organization. Well said. And you do it so well, you know, with your years of experience
1:21.5	as a pastor, but you also bring this beautiful creative element, not only to your work, but to your life as a poet
1:30.3	extraordinaire. As I said, you've written a few collections of poetry. Can you share a bit about
1:35.4	the significance of being a poet and what that bursts for you in the world? Yeah. Poetry for me has been first and foremost to spiritual practice,
1:50.0	both the practice of reading poetry and writing poetry,
1:55.0	because it's been an invitation for me to, in a way for me to pay attention
2:00.0	to what's going on in my own interior world,
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