And he then says to Krebs, look, I really don't think you should write a story about me because it might mess up the law enforcement investigation into me. You could interfere with an ongoing investigation I would hate for that to happen. He obviously wants to see properly concluded and come to its right resolution.

Smashing Security, Episode 446, a hacker docks is himself, and social engineering as a service,

with Graham Cluley and special guest Rick Ferguson.

Hello, hello and welcome to Smash Insecurity episode 446. My name's Graham Cluley.

And I am Rick Ferguson.

Hello, Rick. Welcome back to the show. It's been many, many years since you last joined us.

For anyone who doesn't know, I mean, is there anybody who doesn't know rock star Rick Ferguson?

Describe yourself, Rick, to our audience.

I'm six feet tall.

I weigh 182 pounds.

Oh.

There you go.

What's that in kilograms?

I don't know. Actually, about 80. I don't. I'm really not sure. I should know. I left the world of Imperial behind many years ago. Okay. Well, you're a fine figure of a man, and you also work in the cyber security industry, don't you? Oh, there is that. Oh, there is some relevant to you coming on the podcast this week.

Yeah, it's weird.

I've been in technology as an industry, in IT, let's say, for 31 years.

And I think 26 of those have been in cybersecurity, although it wasn't called that back then.

And you still haven't solved the cyber security problem.

Don't you feel a bit of a failure?

Oh, no, I have.

I just haven't told anyone. Oh, okay. While you're continuing to make money out of it, you mean? It's like those, you know, everlasting matchsticks and everlasting light bulbs, all those other things. I've got all those on a shelf, too. Well, before we kick off, let's thank this week's wonderful sponsors, Vanta One Password and Drata.

We'll be hearing more about them later on in the podcast.

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