A gun industry insider perspective with Ryan Busse

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 7 June 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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There are more guns than cars in the United States. And studies show that gun sales go up following mass shootings. We had a different episode planned for this week, but given the marked rise in gun violence, we pivoted. This week’s guest spent 30 years as a leader at one of America’s most popular gun companies. Ryan Busse is a former firearms executive at Kimber America and is author of “Gunfight: My Battle Against the Industry that Radicalized America,” in which he talks about how America’s multibillion-dollar gun industry has profited from and fueled cultural divisions. Busse joins WITHpod to discuss how we got to this point, why he chose to leave the industry, what he observed behind closed doors at NRA meetings, how political division fuels extremism and what the failure to enact stricter legislation means for the future of our democracy. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads. You'll also get exclusive bonus content from this and other shows. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0	Are there black people in the industry?
0:01.6	Very, very few.
0:03.6	Very few.
0:04.6	I mean, I can count on one hand probably,
0:06.7	has the ones that I've met through 25 years in the industry?
0:10.1	So it's really, really a very white face.
0:12.0	It really is, yeah. It really is.
0:14.0	And is it very extremely male?
0:15.9	It pretty much. That's changing some,
0:17.9	but yeah, I don't know the official statistics.
0:20.0	If I had to guess, you know, certainly in the management ranks,
0:23.4	I would guess it in the 75 to 80 percent male.
0:26.1	Hello, and welcome to Wise.
0:31.0	This is happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.
0:32.6	Well, I will tell you the honest truth,
0:42.2	which is that we had planned another podcast for this week,
0:46.0	which is the second week of June, as you're listening this.
0:49.1	But we decided to lay it because of the shooting in Uvalda, Texas.
0:55.6	Obviously, we've been covering on the show,
0:58.1	where 19 children and two adults were murdered
1:01.2	by an 18-year-old who acquired, I think,
1:05.3	two, possibly three weapons, legally, two of them assault style rifles.
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