Hi, this is Women Who Travel, a new podcast from Condé Nas Traveler that digs deep into the realities of traveling as a woman today and celebrates why we'll never stay home.

For our seventh episode, we're joined by Jaina Malary, Maidwell's editorial director, Traveler Video Editor Diane Kang, and Senior Digital Editor, Kathleen LaGrave and Meredith is out sick this week

but before we dive into the topic this week I just wanted to shout out to a few listeners

who gave us lots of amazing feedback from our last episode, which

talked about why the travel industry needs to do more for women of color. We had an influx of

messages, Facebook comments, people had a lot to say. Hi, this is Jen Fry. I think that what

myself, black women needs is someone that really understands what is

isn't safe for black women to go to because I think it's very European kind of

white culture to say that only places like Africa Latin Latin America, South America are going to be dangerous

when those aren't the places where there have been bombings and terrorist attacks.

It's been the white countries like Belgium and Norway and those type of things.

And countries that are mainly if people of color always get the bad rep of that they're the

dangerous ones. And those are the ones where actually I felt the most safe and the most welcomed.

What we need are people that truly understand what isn't, isn't dangerous for women of color

with good reasons why.

Hi, my name is Alexis Madison. I am 25 and I have been traveling for about three

years now. And I can definitely tell you that as a woman of color, especially outside of the

United States, I would say that the travel industry doesn't necessarily cater to myself

specifically. A lot of the difficulty sometimes that I face is not really overt racism. It's not

people, you know, making me feel unwelcome in places. It's more so

the lack of education around how people should address a woman of color in other countries. So as an

example, I was in Japan this past May and I actually had a couple who followed me around a site that I was seeing and

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