Welcome back to part two of our Understanding Natural Light series, which we have brought back as part of the Best of Growing Joy series. This was a series of interviews that I did with Leslie Halleck, a dear plant friend of mine, horticulture and lighting expert. We released these episodes 100 years ago, so I wanted to bring them back to the top of the podcast feed for anybody who's

new here, because these two episodes are so important. They really help you understand how to

assess your natural lighting environment. In this episode specifically, we dive more into measuring

because the number one mistake I see a lot of people make is misunderstanding their light and usually overestimating

their light. So today we're breaking down window directions, light volume versus brightness,

and why your plants think in calories, not vibes. So I'm going to make sense at the end of this

episode. Make sure you grab the free Understanding Natural Light download that goes alongside

these episodes so that you can

measure for yourself and never get confused about light again, plant friends. It's linked in the show

notes. Welcome to the Growing Joy with Plants podcast, where we not only learn how to care for plants

successfully, but how to simply and affordably use our plant babies to cultivate more joy

in our lives by doing so. I'm Maria, former plant killer turned happy plant lady, author of

Growing Joy, The Plant Lover's Guide to Cultivating Happiness, speaker, podcaster, and most importantly,

your new best plant friend.

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So after this awesome kind of like rule of thumb tutorial, you gave me some really fun homework that I want to talk to you about because there are a couple of options available

to us if we want to just dive deeper.

And for me, I feel like the exercise of measuring what we

measured. And I'm so excited to kind of dive into what I actually did measure was just really

eye-opening for me to learn, number one, the difference in light in my small apartment with

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