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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

A GOP civil war? Don’t bet on it

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

If you’ve paid any attention to the news lately, you’ve probably heard this line: There’s a “civil war” raging within the GOP. Republican leadership is duking it out in the open after losing the White House, the House and the Senate; just this week, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy ousted his No. 3, Rep. Liz Cheney. On this Playbook Deep Dive, political analyst Jeff Greenfield digs into a contrarian argument with Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza: There is no civil war. This is a purge of anyone who isn't sticking to the party line — and it might actually strengthen the GOP. Ryan Lizza is a co-author of POLITICO Playbook.Jeff Greenfield is a five-time Emmy-winning network television analyst and author.Adrienne Hurst is a producer for POLITICO audio.Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio. SHOW NOTES A GOP Civil War? Don’t Bet On It, by Jeff Greenfield Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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An all-out civil war now taking place under the GOP tent.

0:05.0

This is going to be like a battle royale.

0:09.0

If you've been reading the coverage lately, it's easy to believe the Republican Party is eating itself alive.

0:15.0

The entire Republican civil war.

0:16.0

The threat to democracy.

0:18.0

And the civil war.

0:19.0

Where do I stand?

0:20.0

NBC calls it a GOP power struggle.

0:23.0

The hell describes deep rifts.

0:26.0

Enormous consequences.

0:27.0

It's also a collapse of a party.

0:29.0

Battle of the century.

0:32.0

So if this is a civil war, it's like Jefferson Davis decided to surrender right after Ford Sumpter.

0:38.0

The piece that I wrote asks in so many words, what civil war?

0:47.0

This is Playbook Deep Dive. I'm Ryan Liza.

0:51.0

Can we move forward without President Trump the answer is no.

0:56.0

Today, we're traveling through time.

0:59.0

Through the last 200 years or so, in fact, to contextualize what's happening right now behind the scenes in the Republican Party.

1:06.0

After losing the White House, the House, and the Senate, GOP leadership is duking it out in the open.

1:13.0

Talk about awkward, given how all of this is playing out so publicly.

1:19.0

Just on Wednesday, the minority leader in the House ousted his number three.

1:24.0

Liz Cheney, a Republican from Wyoming.

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