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Hello, I'm Harriet Gilbert.

Thank you for downloading a good read, the podcasts,

where two guests and I recommend books we love and describe why we love them.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I hope you'll

find some great reading suggestions here. Today, lessons in chemistry, a ghost in the throat,

and a new way of looking at the world. With me to introduce their good reads, our first

Catherine May, host of the How We Live Now podcast. Her books include wintering and coming out just this month

enchantment, reawakening wonder in an exhausted age. With Catherine is the poet Liz Berry, author of the

award-winning debut collection, Black Country. Her novel in verse, the home child, is also published

this month.

And Liz Berry, perhaps you'd start us off.

What is your choice of a good read?

So the book I've chosen as my good read is A Ghost in the Throat by the Irish writer and poet Deeran Negrefer.

It's a really beautiful, curious mix of memoir and lyric essay, biography and translation and it tells the story of Dearen's mission to translate an old Irish poem, a keen in

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