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My name's Katie Lecky and I'm an assistant commissioner for on demand music on BBC Sounds.

The BBC has an incredible musical heritage and culture and as a music lover, I love being part of that.

With music on sounds, we offer collections and mixes for everything, from workouts to

helping you nod off, boogie in your kitchen, or even just a moment of calm. And they're all

put together by people who know their stuff. So if you want some expertly curated music in your life,

check out BBC Sounds. Thanks for downloading a good read. You can find more information

on all the BBC downloads at BBC.co.uk slash radio four. Hello, welcome. We're off on three very

different road trips today on horse and camel across Arabia, on a motorbike through the US, and on foot to have

tea with the vicar. Joining me with their choice of a good read are the veteran DJ Johnny Walker,

who began broadcasting in the 1960s on pirate radio ships, then joined BBC Radio 1,

championing artists such as Lou Reed, Elton John and The Eagles,

and in 1999 Radio 2, where today he presents sounds of the 70s on Sunday afternoons.

And with Johnny is the journalist Kate Silverton,

who regularly anchors news programmes on BBC 1 and has reported from such troubled regions as Iraq and Afghanistan.

She's also gone kayaking for the TV feature Ultimate White Water,

motor racing on top gear, and generally not being afraid of taking risks everywhere.

But perhaps not quite as daredevil as the woman whose biography you've chosen, Kate. Tell us about it. No, indeed. And perhaps

that's why I love her so much. I've chosen Daughter of the Desert, the remarkable life of Gertrude Bell

by Georgina Howell. This is probably one of the most overachieving people, actually, not just

women, of our recent history. And yet very few people, I think, will

recognise her name. She was an archaeologist, a spy, Arabist, linguist, author,

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