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Hello, I'm Harriet Gilbert. Thank you for downloading a good read, the podcasts,

where two guests and I recommend books we love and describe why we love them. We don't always see eye to eye,

but I hope you'll find some great

reading suggestions here. Hello with me today, the best-selling author Joanna Trollope, whose 21

novels include The Rector's Wife, Marrying the Mistress, and out just a couple of weeks ago,

an unsuitable match. With Joanna is poet and playwright Sabrina Mahfuz,

who last year edited the anthology,

The Things I Would Tell You, British Muslim Women, Right,

and who's currently working on an adaptation for the Royal Opera House

of Nawal El Saduie's novel Woman at Point Zero.

Joanna Trollope, would you start us off?

Your choice of a good read is.

Well, my choice is a Penelope Fitzgerald.

I absolutely adore and revere Penelope Fitzgerald.

And this one is probably one of her lesser-known books,

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