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Hello, I'm Harriet Gilbert.

Thank you for downloading a good read, the podcasts,

where two guests and I recommend books we love and describe why we love them.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I hope you'll find some great reading suggestions here. Hello, if you're a fan of chess or Marian Keyes, or you hate the dentist,

today is your day. With me to introduce their good reader to writers. Telegraph columnist

Brianie Gordon is the author of six books, including the wrong knickers and most recently no such thing as normal.

Briani also presents the Mad World podcast and founded Mental Healthmates, a peer support network for people with mental health concerns.

With her is the poet Holly McNish, author of four poetry collections, of which the latest, Slug and Other Things I've

I've Been Told to Hate, comes out in May. Holly's also published a memoir, Nobody Told Me,

and co-written with Sabrina Mafuse, The Play Offside About Women's Football.

Brony Gordon, would you start us off with your choice of a good read? What is it? Yes, it's Rachel's Holiday by the fantastic Marianne Keyes. I just think she's absolutely wonderful. You see her books in shops. Well, you used to see her books in shops when shops were open, but you see her books in shops and they look. So, you know, you could sort of dismiss them as chick lit, I suppose.

Not that there's anything wrong with chick lit at all, but I think she's so fantastic at delivering

quite serious subjects in a light way. I love that. I don't think serious subjects have to be

delivered in very serious ways, I suppose. And Rachel's holiday is a novel about

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