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Registered reference number 900846. This is Eat Sleep Work Repeat, a weekly series of podcasts about happiness and work culture.

Here we are again, good morning. It's a podcast about making work better.

This is the 48th episode.

I can't tell you how much I love today's guest, Carrie Cooper.

He's a sir actually. Sir Carrie Cooper. I've met

him about four times and you know when you meet someone you struck with your own

inarticulously that you can't quite express how much you enjoy their

company. I keep dreaming that maybe me and him

I'll have a glass a while, a cup of tea, maybe a cake. There's an interesting thing

in that you know I was listening to something fantastic last week. She was explaining that since we've sort of transformed

our perception of marriage. Marriage used to be just like partnership between people

and now we sort of try and regard it as finding the one and we've turned the burden of the

responsibility of marriage we turned it up several notches and it's it's had the

consequence of changing the nature of male friendship.

Most straight relationships involve the woman now making more social plans than ever before,

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