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Money Tree Investing

A Golden Opportunity In Small and Mid-Sized Banks

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

John Palmer delves into his extensive career in banking, and highlights the golden opportunity that lies in small and mid-sized banks. He highlights trends like consolidation, regulatory evolution, and technological advancements. Looking ahead, he is optimistic about the banking sector’s recovery cycle and its capacity for sustained growth, even amid challenges like commercial real estate pressures and emerging fintech innovations. 

Today we discuss...

  • John Palmer shared his extensive experience in the banking industry, including his career start at KPMG and his transition to founding a banking-focused investment fund in 1996.
  • How the banking industry has undergone massive consolidation since the 1990s driven largely by efficiency and cost-saving opportunities.
  • Key trends like stricter regulations, higher capital requirements, improved loan underwriting, and the transformative impact of technology on banking operations.
  • The causes of the recent crises at Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, and First Republic, emphasizing asset-liability mismanagement during rapid rate hikes.
  • Blockchain technology acknowledged as a potential long-term asset for banks and skepticism about the role of cryptocurrency in traditional banking.
  • The current banking stock cycle entering an upward phase, with profitability projected to grow steadily through 2026.
  • Bank earnings and stock performance are rising, driven by factors like margin expansion and easing deposit costs.
  • Banks with $1-$10 billion in assets are attractive targets for M&A due to cost savings and growth opportunities.
  • Major banks are expanding branch networks in rural areas, targeting low-cost deposits, while smaller banks focus more on digital channels.
  • The Midwest and Mideast regions show the most M&A activity, though the Southeast and California are also of interest.
  • Investments focus on public banks with shareholder lists amenable to proxy support for structural changes.
  • Banking regulation relief under a new administration could lower compliance costs and ease capital requirements.
  • A normalized yield curve is boosting loan repricing and margins, contributing to earnings growth.
  • Bank valuations remain attractive compared to broader markets, with banking stocks trading at significant discounts to earnings.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.0

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.0

Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcasts listeners.

0:13.0

Welcome to this week's show.

0:14.0

My name is Kirk Chisholm and I'll be your host.

0:16.0

So today I'm joined with John Palmer.

0:18.0

How are you doing, John?

0:19.0

Good morning, good.

0:20.0

How are you, Kirk? Great. Well, glad to having the show. It's been a long time been trying to get John on the show.

0:25.1

It's a treat for me to get a chance to interview him. There's a lot of great stuff I think the listeners can learn here.

0:31.3

So, John, before we begin, tell us a little bit about your background. By way of background, my partner, Rich Lashney and I were KPMG starting back in the early

0:39.2

80s, working on the audit side banks and thrifts throughout the U.S. And then in the mid to late 80s,

0:47.7

really got involved in M&A and the banking industry due to our clients' acquisitions that were going

0:52.9

out throughout the U.S.

1:00.2

In the early 90s, Rich and I met at KPMG, and we both actually worked in New York together in a broker dealer called KPMG Baymark, where we did National Full-Scope Bank M&A Advisory

1:06.3

Services and became the ninth-largest provider, Bank M&A, buying numbers of deals back then,

1:12.4

and then left the firm in 90, ended 95, beginning 96, and started our funds.

1:16.9

So we started our first fund, January 1, 1996.

1:19.7

We've been at this ever since.

1:21.9

We run a very concentrated portfolio of U.S. banks only.

1:26.3

Our top 10 names would constitute about 75% of our capital. We manage around

1:32.2

300 million in capital. And probably the most differentiating piece of our business is we do get

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