This is an I-Heart podcast.

So before I get to the Paradise chat, I just want to shout out to our hotel that we're

staying at the Portofino Hotel and Marina.

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At Baline Kitchen, dine steps from the marina and savor coastal-inspired SoCalc cuisine.

For a touch of adventure, dockside adventure center offers kayaks, paddle boards, and complimentary bikes for a scenic coaster ride.

Then return to the hotel's living room where the Portofino Porz self-serve tap wall invites you to unwind and soak in a breathtaking coastal sunset.

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Okay, let's dive back into the Bachelor in Paradise Reunion.

This is the almost famous podcast with Iheart Radio.

Kathy and Keith, come on.

My favorite couple of friends, right?

But you know what?

There was a moment, if you guys remember, and Keith, you referenced this today.

You referenced when we all got together in February or whatever that was, January February.

Carmel.

And I was teasing you guys because you came in, you were late.

I'm like, I think we got a love connection.

And you guys have been this great friend connection. And it really resonated on the show. I mean, as a fan watching the show, I should say this, as a fan of the two of you. Because I've never really been a big Bachelor in Paradise watcher. I'm huge. Yeah, I know. I love it. I like Bachelor in Paradise the best. I know. You know, you like, you've said it You said it. You love that it ends up being about love. But this year's whole season was really different, right? I mean, there was some twists in there, kind of some survivor-esque for lover money moments. I mean, there was a lot of, they threw the kitchen sink at this show this year. And for the first time ever, they had Goldens on, and you guys were there. How did you feel about that? Like, you came into the

situation. I know that the two of you have always been good friends and you have a great friendship, but you immediately were providing counsel for these kids. And it's just because you both couldn't just, couldn't help yourselves. It was just like you're watching a hot mess. We're two quiet people. I mean, let's think about this.

We each have three children.

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