Right, and finally, what I'm going to say before we start is I'm so jazzed about doing

this book and this episode and this writer. I cannot tell you this is the not this is the

highlight of the year so far for me. I'm keeping my power to dry, but my god, it's ready

to explode any minute. Fantastic. Patrick, thank you so much, Rachel. Thank you so much.

So let's let's hit the ground. Well, we won't hit it running. We'll hit it. I'm trying

to I'm bouncing up and down in my chair. Come on. Okay, let's go. Right. I'm going to

ask Rachel where she is in a minute. Well, I know where she is. It's all it's all smoke and

mirrors. Listeners, but I don't know where Patrick is. Where are you Patrick? Where are

you calling us from? I'm at home in Carrick and Shannon, which is in County

Lidrum and the Irish Midlands. And I've been living here for about two years, two and

a half years now. And it's by the river Shannon. So I suppose the cliche rustic ideal for

the young novelist. I can say, is that a that's a window behind you, isn't it? Yeah, I've

got a window here. I don't know if it's a window behind me. No, it's a bookshelf, actually,

I've just checked. I can see. Okay. And what can you see out your nearest window? What's

you see? Some crows, you know, they're building and they're stealing all this mattress

stuffing from my wife's flora beds and things. And, you know, it's it's it's pretty

much a tranquil scene, you know, one that one might be moved to Poisey if one was so

despot. However, we know there's no money in that. Yeah. You're right. You're dead

right. Rachel Kerr. Oh, so delighted to be reunited, even by the electrics with Rachel.

Rachel, where are you? I'm downstairs, where John is. I'm sitting at my desk in Oxfordshire.

I hear lockdowns been terrible. Is it? He won't. He can't hear this. He's he we put him

in the mistramissing booth. So he can't hear you. Well, you'll note my my fancy headphones,

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