Hey everyone, welcome to Conversations. I'm John Bavaria joined with my wife, Lisa, and today we have a very special guest who I'm going to introduce in just a minute.

First of all, I want to say that Conversations is a part of a family of podcasts. First of all, we've got let's talk about it with sons and daughters who I'm going to introduce with is you two in a minute.

I know I am. Is the host of that one. And then we've got the Godmothers with Lisa Cutie Bavaria. But today we are joined by our tall handsome good looking man of God son who Lisa and I are so proud of.

I'm married son, Arden Bavaria. Arden, it's a pleasure to have you on the program. And Arden, I want to ask you a question. I know the answer. How old are you?

I'm 26 and I feel like the only other time I've gotten that introduction was for my wife. So I really appreciated that.

Wow. I mean, never word of it. That's amazing. So Lisa, what are we going to talk about today?

So I'm going to just jump right into this episode because I really want to see Arden get all of the time. And the last couple of episodes we've been talking about messenger X.

We want to talk about this amazing platform that is on the app store. You can get it through Google. You can get it through Apple. We're so excited.

And this course and this book we're going to be talking about the content is going to be on messenger X. So we're super excited about that. But the name of the book and what we're talking about today, which is so important is called redefined.

And what does it mean?

You guys do the subtile because I love the subtile.

Do you want to say it?

Yes, I do.

Okay.

Now listen guys, confronting the labels that limit us. Wow, what a book for today.

And you know, Arden, I'm going to throw this to you, but I know that you wrote this with your generation in your heart.

And your dad has already said that you are 26, which means you fall into what group of people?

Millennials.

Millennials. But you want this for millennials and Gen Zs to have a redefined moment. So can you share your heart behind the book?

Yeah, and that's actually the cool thing because I wrote this for millennials and Gen Zs. But I've said we've been getting responses and feedbacks.

We've been getting it some all generations. Like I had a pastor that was talking to me about it. And he was like, you're teaching this old old dog new tricks. And I just was so honored.

He said he was 70.

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