welcome to Onapologetic Live. I am your host, Omulep Anobi. We are trying to do this segment called Devils Advocate,

which is why I got my little devil horns on and my little devil tail because I'm going to be playing my old school

leftist role, me four years ago, and interviewing somebody on sort of the anti-woke, maybe some might call conservative

end of the spectrum. On today's episode, we're going to be focusing on the particular issue of gender theory,

transgenderism, and the idea of whether or not we should be teaching this to children in school.

Young Apollo with the best of it!

Now, the person that I decided to bring on to talk about this is somebody who I follow on all platforms,

but who is super prevalent on Twitter. His name is Colin Wright. He's an evolutionary biologist.

He runs the publication, Reality's Last Stand, and he's a contributing editor at Kuala Lait. Colin Wright.

Thank you so much for being on the show today. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you.

Awesome. Before I step into my role as a leftist and start grilling you on these issues, can you give

people a little bit of your story and your background and how you got to talking about this stuff?

Yeah, sure. As you mentioned, I'm an evolutionary biologist, or maybe I was one. I'm no longer

in academia, so I graduated from UC Santa Barbara with my PhD in evolutionary biology in 2018,

and then I became a postdoc research fellow at Penn State. I was there from 2018 to 2020,

and it was during those times, maybe a little bit before, where I started knowing how

sort of noticing how the conversation around what sex is, what males and females are,

and gender sort of we're getting all muddled and people were saying things like sex is a spectrum

or a social construct. We should let people identify how they want to in and out of these biological

categories, and I was always pretty well grounded in biology, and I saw people that were making these

claims that just were very wrong. They just weren't correct, and so I started writing about this stuff,

and I didn't realize how much of a hornet's nest was out there that I was actually whacking at,

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