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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Ben Sass, I wish I'd known the guy. He's still alive, but he is dying of cancer.

And he's a small-town Nebraska guy. I'm a small town Kansas guy. And I just, I wish I had known him because he's, he's absolutely amazing. He is, he is like what I picture the founding fathers were probably like if you listen to them talk. Yeah, he'd have made a good founding father, I think. Yeah. Well said, yeah. And, uh, super smart guy. Too good for politics. I was just, I was watching the interview last night, and I've thought this many times. I've listened to interviews with them. I've read stuff and we talk to them and just like, why can't we have more people like this in our politics? Because they won't take the job, I guess. Most of the time. Or they won't say the things you need to say to get elected.

I think it comes down to what does getting into politics reward and what does it punish?

And we get the leaders, public servants we deserve because our politics are perverse.

I retweeted the Ben Sass interview from 60 Minutes last night saying everybody should watch it.

Sarah Isgar, who I really like said, haven't seen a conversation like this, intellectual, philosophical, big picture on TV in decades.

It's incredible.

I would agree. It was incredible.

Let's listen to some of it.

Here's Ben Sass, who's a dying of pancreatic cancer

on 60 minutes last night. I love America. And I think there's a lot of big and meaty things that we

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