That's how it works in Africa. It took me a while to realize most of my cousins weren't cousins.

These aren't people who I'm actually biologically tied to it. I'm sure Josh in the South is it a similar thing?

I've already started telling people that y'all are my cousins.

So...

South African and Nigerian British cousin.

You're listening to what now, the podcast where I chat to interesting people

about the conversations taking over our world.

This week we're talking about friendship, why friendship matters, why we don't always treat it like it matters,

and what would happen if we... why we don't always treat it like it matters,

and what would happen if we all started prioritizing it in our lives?

To help us do that, I invited author, journalist,

and friendship expert Rayna Cohen onto the podcast.

Of course, along with Rayna, I'm joined by my friends, writer and journalist and professional

hater, Christina, Ambaco, Medina, and comedian, and... and into it.

Hey, what's up everyone. This is what now with Trevanoa. This is what now with Trevenoa. Bono. Happy podcast day everybody.

Happy podcast day.

Good to see you all.

Good to feel you all.

This is, you know, it's always wonderful to have you all, you know,

in my world, in my vibe.

I appreciate it.

Christiano, how's the family?

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