A former NATO ambassador gets inside Putin’s head
The Conversation with Dasha Burns
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🗓️ 28 January 2022
⏱️ 34 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I don't want to be too militarist about it, but they had a mild start to the winter in |
| 0:07.9 | Ukraine, so the ground was mushy. |
| 0:10.7 | And so I think he needed a couple more weeks to make sure it gets nice and hard before |
| 0:15.3 | he has all his options in front of him, frozen hard, solid ground so that your armor can |
| 0:20.6 | roll as quickly as it can. |
| 0:24.7 | The weather is just one of many unknowns when trying to predict what Russia's Vladimir |
| 0:30.0 | Putin will do next. |
| 0:33.4 | Right now, Putin's troops are virtually surrounding Ukraine, and they seem poised to move in, in |
| 0:39.6 | case diplomacy fails. |
| 0:41.6 | I believe that's what happens when you let a bunch of baby boomers run the world. |
| 0:47.8 | To understand the political war game here, I want to get inside two boomers' heads, |
| 0:53.1 | Biden's and Putin's. |
| 0:56.0 | So it was 25 years in the foreign service. |
| 0:59.2 | I called the former ambassador to NATO, and in 2017, 2019 was you a special representative |
| 1:04.7 | for Ukraine negotiations. |
| 1:06.3 | Kurt Volker. |
| 1:08.1 | There is a worst-case scenario, but there are plenty of other bad scenarios as well too, |
| 1:12.4 | so we can't just focus on the worst-case one. |
| 1:15.3 | Plus, you go to Russia. |
| 1:17.4 | I feel sorry for my brothers, the Ukrainians. |
| 1:23.8 | We love them. |
| 1:24.8 | You know what's going on, at the end of the world, you see how people talk to each other? |
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