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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

A Former D.O.J. Official on How to Fix Policing

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

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🗓️ 8 June 2020

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Ron Davis was a cop for almost thirty years, first as an officer with the Oakland P.D., then as the chief of police of East Palo Alto, California. In 2013, he joined President Barack Obama's Department of Justice to direct initiatives on policing reform. He investigated the police response to the unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, after the killing of Michael Brown. Davis tells Jelani Cobb that police violence in black communities is built into the structure of policing. “I think the system is working perfectly. It is working as it was intended to work,” Davis says. “We’re still using the same systems that were designed on purpose to oppress communities of color.”

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I'm Dorothy Wickendon. On today's Politics and More podcast, the New Yorker's Jelani Cobb talks with Ronald L. Davis.

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A former police officer, Davis ran the Justice Department's Office of Community-oriented

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Policing Services during the Obama administration, and he has become a strong advocate for policing reform.

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To look around the United States today is enough to make prophets and angels weep.

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James Baldwin wrote that in 1978, and the same thing can be said of the terrible moment in

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which we live now. The cruelty, the heedlessness with which George Floyd was killed is sickening to consider.

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With Floyd face down on the street and begging for his life, a Minneapolis police officer

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dug his knee into Floyd's neck for nearly nine minutes. Every second of it captured on video

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by bystanders.

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But perhaps what was most appalling is that it was hardly exceptional.

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It follows the recent killings of Ahmed Arbery and Brianna Taylor,

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and many other deaths at the hands of law enforcement

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in a decades-long litany of racist police abuse.

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