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The Next Big Idea

A Food Crisis Is Brewing. Are We Ready?

The Next Big Idea

Next Big Idea Club

Education, Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Caleb is joined by Sam Kass, former senior food policy advisor to President Obama and the chef who cooked dinner for the first family most nights. Now a partner at a venture capital firm investing in food and agriculture tech, Sam has a new book out, The Last Supper: How to Overcome the Coming Food Crisis. The situation, he says, is bleak. Almonds, artichokes, chocolate, coffee, oysters, rice, wine — all at risk due to climate change. And that’s not even close to the full list. Our food system is both driving the climate crisis and being devastated by it. But Sam argues we can still avert the worst if we start with culture, fix our policies, and deploy the right technology. (4:00) Cooking for the Obamas (7:49) How vulnerable is our food supply? (12:45) Can fixing the food system bring us together? (24:29) The food policies we need (27:38) Are we making America healthy again? (35:42) The technologies that can make a difference — Thoughts? Email us at podcast@nextbigideaclub.com

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Caleb Bissinger, and this is the next big idea.

0:04.0

Today I'm sitting down with Sam Cass.

0:06.6

He was a senior food policy advisor to President Obama,

0:09.8

and he cooked dinner most nights for the first family.

0:12.5

When you're in somebody's home in that intimate way,

0:14.3

you become basically part of the family.

0:16.4

The meals he prepared in the White House were wholesome.

0:19.5

But in his new book, The Last Supper,

0:21.7

he says, a lot of what we eat is not only bad for our bodies. You know, you have 80% of the

0:26.7

foods produced in the country are like not considered healthy. It's also bad for the planet.

0:32.7

It's the number one driver of biodiversity loss and land use change, number one use to the world's

0:36.9

fresh water, and the second main contributor of greenhouse gas emissions, number one use to the world's freshwater, and the

0:37.9

second main contributor of greenhouse gas emissions around the world.

0:41.2

And the foods we love may be in jeopardy.

0:44.0

Coffee prices are skyrocketing because of climate.

0:47.2

Chocolate was up 200% last year.

0:49.4

It's going to get worse if we don't get serious about change, but it's happening right now

0:53.7

as we speak.

0:54.7

After Smads, Sam and I will dig into what it will take to save our food system before it's too late.

1:20.6

... From 2009 to 2014, Sam Cas had two jobs.

1:29.9

By day, he was a senior food policy advisor to President Obama, or as the newer times dubbed him, food master general.

1:36.2

He worked on Michelle Obama's signature health campaign, Let's Move, and he successfully championed legislation that gave more than 30 million school kids access to affordable, nutritious meals.

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