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Radiolab

A Flock of Two

Radiolab

WNYC Studios

Science, Natural Sciences, History, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.643.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Radio Lab. I'm Latif Nasser. So recently, you may have seen just a rash of headlines

0:07.8

about people using artificial intelligence for their mental health. There are all these

0:13.4

therapists, bots, and just even people using regular chat bots to help them find solutions to their

0:19.7

problem, to calm them down, to, just looking for somebody

0:22.5

to even just to listen. And I don't know. I'm not sure what to think of any of it for a lot of

0:30.8

different reasons, but partially because the AI doesn't know anything. It's just taking an unimaginable amount of our words,

0:41.2

scrambling them up and generating something relevant and helpful,

0:44.4

and maybe even intelligent seeming,

0:46.8

but it doesn't actually know what any of those words mean.

0:50.6

Ultimately, all it's doing is parroting our language back at us. And yet, I know a lot of people

0:58.0

find it very helpful to talk to. All of that got me to thinking about a very different story that we

1:05.2

made here at the show years ago, a story where similarly a person who needs help is helped by something.

1:15.5

And it's unclear if that something really knows how it's helping or whether it's helping.

1:21.3

We originally heard this back in 2011, so it was years before ChatGPT.

1:25.5

But it's sort of a low-tech way of doing the same thing,

1:28.8

of parroting your language back to you to help you.

1:34.8

So today I want to play that story for you.

1:37.2

Here it is.

1:38.0

A flock of two.

1:39.5

Wait, you're listening.

1:41.1

Okay.

1:42.4

All right.

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