I'm Autumn Brown, front woman of the soul pop band, Autumn, a queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons,

and a healing justice facilitator for social movements living on Dakota and Inishinaabe land,

currently known as Minneapolis.

And I'm Adrienne Marie Brown, a luscious black queer witch writer, auntie, an apocalyptic love scholar, a public

conversationalist, and a gardener of healing ideas. I live in the land of the Okanichi,

Shakori, Skruri, Tesorra, Eno, and Lumby peoples currently called Durham.

I see you conversation. I'm a public conversationist.

Let's just call it what it is.

Love.

And this is How to Survive the End of the World.

Our podcast about learning from apocalypse with grace, rigor, and curiosity.

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exclusive content. Okay, we have a show for you today. I am so excited. We are so excited.

There's an old friend. There's a new friend, everybody fine, everybody talented. And I think

you're going to be excited by the kind of laughter that this opened in you today. We'll see what

happens, no promises. But we're going to read the bios. Today we have these stars of we come to

collect a flirtation with capitalism. And I got to see this show and I'm going to tell you about it. But here are the two people is Jen Kidwell and Brandon Kzen Maddox. And we're going to, I'm going to give you the bio for Jen and then Autumn will read you Brandon's bio. Okay. So Jen Kidwell, one of my oldest and dearest friends, but here's her bio and is so impressive,

so I'm going to read like so much of it. Okay. Jen Kidwell's poignant, performer-driven

theater work addresses the complexities of race and notions of American history with sharp

intelligence and wry humor. Invested in probing challenging social and historical truths,

Kidwell says, my work celebrates what exists at our margins,

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