Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Dory Shafrier.

And I'm Elise Hugh, and we're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

Today on the show, one of my great friends and colleagues, really, at TED, because we both host

TED podcasts, Manusse Zomerooti, is going to be on. She has a new book out called The Body Electric,

and it's backed by all sorts of fascinating research about the minimal amount of daily exercise

that we need in order to keep our bodies healthy and strong.

It's good stuff.

And plus, Mnuch is just like a ball of energy and super charismatic.

And we have a great conversation with her.

Yeah, I really love talking to her.

She's a lot of fun. She was great. Um, Elise, what's going on with you? Well, what is going on?

We are in post-production on winswept. So I've been doing a lot of like big editorial meetings

with my co-director Rufus and having a lot of fun big editorial meetings with my co-director

Rufus and having a lot of fun there.

It is like almost the end of the school year.

So it's that snowball feeling like where at time moves really quickly.

I very stupidly allowed two of my girls to be in different productions of the same school musical.

So, like, I have one daughter that's in the Matilda Jr. class that met on Tuesdays.

And then the other daughter is in the Matilda Jr. class that met on Fridays.

And so each cast has two shows, like two evening performances. So in all,

I had to get tickets for four Matilda Jr. performances and attend at least two. The others I have

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