It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone, in our spring membership drive, trying to reach our goal of 10,000 donors. Thank you for being one if you can. We will have another

10 question quiz for the membership drive later in the show loosely based on the public radio

program title, Science Friday. So if you're a little bit of a science geek or at least follow

science news a little bit, this one's going to be for you in about an hour.

You don't have to be a chemistry major, if you know what I mean.

To get these right, you just have to be paying a little bit of attention to the science news that comes our way, often in the headlines.

That's coming up.

And during this drive, we're sampling from the Brian Laird show,

Bookshelf. A lot of interesting books have come out this spring, and we've invited 10 different

authors to share their minds and hearts as they've poured them into their books. Today we have two

authors later in the show, Princeton Professor Eddie Glaude, with his take on the relationship between political

leaders who we like, not the bad guys, whoever the bad guys are for you, but the relationship

between you and political leaders who inspire you. And it's more complicated and more interesting

than you might think that relationship, or at least what the ideal relationship between you and your heroes could be, according to Eddie, that's coming up.

Right now, Ali Velci is with us with his new book, Small Acts of Courage, a legacy of endurance and the fight for democracy.

Some of you know Ali from his MSNBC show, Saturday and Sundays, 10 a.m. to noon.

Great time to host a news talk show, 10 a.m. to noon.

He is also their chief correspondent and does go out and cover stories.

He also hosts the Friday night 10 p.m. hour, the last word, which Lawrence O'Donnell hosts on the other nights of the weekdays.

Allie also hosted the recent podcast series called The Velshi Band Book Club.

It was great.

He was editor of the book, The Trump Indictments, for which he wrote an introduction to the actual text of all 91 pending criminal counts against the former president.

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