This is the Cater Daily Podcast for Friday, March 9, 2018.

I'm Caleb Brown.

In the President's original order prohibiting immigrants from various predominantly

Muslim countries, one section gave federal agencies power to

flag some would-be immigrants if they could not be shown to contribute to national interests,

whatever that means.

And that section appears to have endured in a way after the broader ban was withdrawn.

Rachel Levinson Waldman of the Brennan Center for Justice and Alvaro Bedoya of the Center on Privacy

and Technology at Georgetown Law discuss what they call a digital Muslim ban.

In the fight over Donald Trump's effort to prevent people from certain countries coming to the United States.

There were a lot of arguments about this country versus that country.

None of it seemed to add up to anything that was grounded in evidence about the people coming from these countries.

The thing that you've looked into seems to be based even less in some particularized arguments about people from certain

countries and that is what you guys call a digital Muslim ban. So what in law or in orders that have been issued by the feds, what does

it that actually add up to? What does it mean technically?

So we call it the digital Mussel and Band because this is an extremely broad program that

will allow ICE to scan pretty much every corner of the internet and potentially use machine learning to flag up to

10,000 people a year for deportation and visa denial under criteria from the

original Muslim ban. So January 27th, Donald Trump comes out, issues a Muslim ban, most people focus as you mentioned

on the fact that it barred people from certain countries from coming in, but there's a little

section, section 4A that people really didn't notice that said

that we need to screen every person coming in the country for whether there will be a terrorist,

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