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I really good to see you, how's everything?

Yeah, it's good to be here, man, kid.

All right, so how would you describe yourself?

Well, you do a lot of stuff, you do coaching, you offer courses, you're a CEO, so how would

you describe yourself?

Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people like me, you figure out how to sell a product,

make money online.

I started selling at 10 years old, and then you become, learn to become a CEO and entrepreneur,

so I manage 300 employees now across companies, I have 90 in my own, so it's that transition

from marketer and side hustle entrepreneur to actually running a real company and building

culture, teams, SOPs, all of that sort of stuff, but it's still known as a marketing

guy, right?

The Facebook ad guy, spending a lot there, so it's that transition from marketer to entrepreneur

and CEO.

So how do you see the landscape now, compared to the way it was a couple of years ago,

in terms of before Apple made the changes, is it still every bit as good as it was,

or is it not quite as explosive?

Yeah, I would say the front end, like making the sales and running ads is less explosive

these days, but we're still, we're bigger than ever, spending more than ever, same for

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