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Hey there, folks. It is Saturday, August 23rd, and actions speak louder than words.

We've been told that our whole lives, and that's what Lyle Menendez was told yesterday,

right before he was denied parole, just like his brother the day before. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Special guest today, Amy. That's funny. No, I'm kidding. No, it was even funnier that you just called me Amy. Well, I had to go with the welcoming to Amy and T.J.

So I had to continue.

All right.

You've never done that before.

I'm just pointing out.

But it was, see, why are we doing this? Hey there, everybody. Well, good thing. She's back, huh? But no, a lot of folks know, Robs have been out the past. a few days on the podcast dropping off a kid at college in Boulder, but was very much Robs while you were

gone, keeping an eye on this story. And isn't it the case, Robes, that you felt momentum was on

their side, even for the past year, plus even? Absolutely. With all of the different hurdles that

they've been able to cross, so to speak,

it felt like, yes, there was a consensus building.

And specifically, the L.A. District Attorney before the elections,

people seemed to think that they had served their time for their crime,

given the ages they were when they were committed.

In addition to new evidence that came up that showed a pattern of abuse their time for their crime, given the ages they were when they were committed, in addition

to new evidence that came up that showed a pattern of abuse by the Menendez brothers' father.

So there seemed to be reasons for, or at least an explanation, a motive that was understandable,

at least, for perhaps why they did what they did. And so, yes,

it, I was surprised. I was a little surprised. That they were both denied. Correct. Okay. So I,

I think to your point, um, we have been watching momentum, public momentum, documentaries, new affidavits, new information.

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