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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

A Different Algorithm. Thane Rosenbaum Talks to A&G

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

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Daily News, News, Society & Culture

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

CBS News legal analyst Thane Rosenbaum joins Jack Armstrong to get us up-to-speed on the pending TikTok deal between the Chinese government and a consortium of US companies.

 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:04.3

Okay, we would like to welcome Thane Rosenbaum to the show now, CBS News, Legal Anus.

0:08.7

So what is going on with TikTok?

0:11.2

Is it going to exist in the United States, and is it going to be the same algorithm?

0:15.2

So, Jack, we won't know for another 90 days.

0:17.8

This is now the fourth attempt to stave off forcing TikTok to end operations

0:24.9

in the United States. Remember, this started with legislation during the Biden administration

0:29.8

that essentially had a, you know, we're not interested in social media companies that mine data

0:37.2

of Americans that come from

0:39.7

putative enemies of ours and that there was no sufficient insulation or Chinese wall,

0:46.8

so to speak, between the Chinese government and TikTok.

0:50.1

That's a reasonable stance, in my opinion.

0:52.4

Yeah, yeah, and the TikTok's epic, we're not really owned by Chinese government.

0:57.6

And so there became a fight about that when, in fact, Bight Dance did have relationships with the Chinese government.

1:04.4

And it's not as if they could refuse a request.

1:07.7

Right.

1:08.1

You know, the Chinese government is like the godfather.

1:10.5

You don't refer to the request.

1:11.6

So if they had asked for something, they would have said, yes.

1:14.6

So the Biden administration said, look, you know, you either sell yourself to an independent

1:19.6

corporation or you shut down in your operation in the United States.

1:24.6

You want to do whatever you do in Europe, that's fine, but not here. Donald Trump, you know, said, well, wait a minute. I think I won this election in part because of TikTok.

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