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The Domonique Foxworth Show

A Deeper Dive Into the Second Apron With Bobby Marks

The Domonique Foxworth Show

ESPN

Sports, Football

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

ESPN front office insider Bobby Marks joins Domonique and Charlie to give insight on how the NBA and its teams feel about the second apron. Then, they dive into the impacts of the second apron rule so far and what the future of the NBA looks like under the rule. 0:00 Welcome back to The Domonique Foxworth Show 3:08 Do NBA GMs like the second apron? 6:20 Early effects of the second apron 11:52 Will buyouts be more common? 13:40 Did OKC have an unfair advantage? 16:37 Accolade incentives that hurt teams 18:42 Is the second apron actually good for parity? 23:28 Is the league happy with the second apron so far? 25:23 How the second apron impacts player empowerment 30:28 What NBA teams can learn from NFL teams 32:10 The value of draft picks with the second apron 34:05 How team building is impacted 36:14 Is the second apron here to stay? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Off top in 1995, Pat Riley kind of traded for himself. Play the music.

0:07.6

This is the Dominique Foxworth Show.

0:14.3

All right, welcome to the Dominique Foxworth Show. I'm here with Charlie as I always am,

0:21.7

but we got a little bit of a unique, what? Did I offend you? I should have sold it more.

0:27.5

No, I want to know how you cut off before we got to know how Pat Riley traded for himself.

0:33.1

It's very rare that I don't have the background on your off tops, and then you can't breeze past it when I'm genuinely interested.

0:39.6

I think that before we get back to that, if we get back to it, maybe I'll make you go Google it yourself.

0:44.7

I think that I need to introduce, remind people that you're here, my co-host, and we have a special guest.

0:50.6

The professor himself, Mr. Bobby Marks, the NBA insider expert that we have at ESPN,

0:58.2

and now teaching all these young people how to manipulate the cap and get the best players that you kid into your organization, right, Bobby?

1:08.9

Well, Charlie, if you didn't know this before, I also

1:11.6

traded the head coach back in 2014. It was actually the last coach that was traded was Jason

1:18.6

Kidd to the Milwaukee Bucks for two future second round picks. I don't know what happened to those

1:23.5

second round picks, but yes, that was, I believe that was the last coach that was actually

1:27.9

traded under this, under the collective bargaining agreement. At least you know it wasn't for

1:32.7

Nicola Yokic, because there would be so many stories written in like NBA Reds thing. Jason Kidd as a

1:37.6

coach was traded for Yokic or any second round. Or Jalen. You know, a real funny story before

1:43.7

we get going here.

1:45.0

We, um, the second night of the draft, I was on stage with Bob Myers, you know, the former

1:49.5

longtime executive of Golden State. And we were talking about trades. And, you know,

1:55.0

Malika likes to tease me a lot about like all my bad trades that happened. And so she said to

2:00.3

him, like, tell him about the trade for, you know, Draymond.

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