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I'm Matt Kittel Senior Elections Correspondent at the Federalist and your experience Sherpa on today's quest for knowledge. As always, you can email the show at radio at the Federalist.com. Follow us on X at FDR LST. Make sure to subscribe wherever you download

your podcast and of course to the premium version of our website as well. I'm

joined today by Thomas Pappas and Rachel Moron, authors of Trump derangement

syndrome, a psychological analysis of leftist ideology.

This is a fascinating topic to explore for sure and Rachel, I'll start with you first of all did I did I did I was I close to getting the

French pronunciation of the name you did amazing Matt thank you so much I can't say if I will I will be able to do that moving forward, but at least at the outset

I have a semblance of the pronunciation. You write in your bio, I think this is

fascinating. You both come from years and years of experience in the field of

psychology, mental health, you said that your journey began primarily assessing children.

However, you eventually discovered your true passion lies in working with adults dealing with various

psychiatric disorders and traumatic brain injuries. What is interesting to me

you write, observing the polarizing reactions to Donald Trump's entry into the political arena,

my partner and I found ourselves intrigued.

We embarked on a quest to understand the mindset of the left delving into the reasons and motivations

behind what appeared to be a phenomenon of irrational behavior now coined as Trump derangement syndrome. I have to tell you folks that must have been

a very dark journey for you and you probably should have gotten combat pay for this.

How did you how did you go up?

I mean, obviously it is an intriguing subject.

There's no doubt about that, but to weigh into this,

I almost wonder if it costs you some of your mental health contentment, if you will.

Well, personally speaking, I think, like as you said is on our on our journey and doing the research into this book

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