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The Peter McCormack Show

A Debt Jubilee to Save the Economy with Arthur Hayes - WBD663

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

Politics, Society, Markets, News, Society & Culture, Technology, Inflation, Finance, Economics, Government, Power, Bitcoin, Money

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Arthur Hayes is an entrepreneur and the former CEO of BitMEX. In my first interview with Arthur, we discuss the state of the world at the moment: what happened with FTX, money printing, the coming collapse, debt jubilees, the need to acquire assets outside the system like Bitcoin, good and bad AI scenarios, and a powder keg of issues that'll hit the markets this fall.

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Arthur Hayes was the co-founder and former CEO of BitMEX, which was one of the largest crypto exchanges and derivatives platforms. In 2021, its average daily trading volume was over $2 billion. Hayes was famously charged in the southern district of New York for violating the Bank Secrecy Act. He got 2 years probation and a $10 million fine.

But Hayes remains an authoritative voice within the crypto and Bitcoin communities. Nic Carter called him "One of the good guys of crypto." He now has a mission to help spread financial literacy and educate investors, which he does through regular medium posts, columns in leading journals and interviews with podcasters. And, he has a knack for calling the market.

In this short interview, we pack in a surprising number of issues: Hayes's investment strategy, and views on crypto and Bitcoin; opinions on the FTX scandal; fragility in the banking sector; historical currency debasements and the inevitability of a coming collapse; the use of debt jubilees to right society; investing in assets that can weather the coming storm; the impacts of AI; and the debt ceiling.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're basically putting this powder keck together of a situation that's going to be

0:09.4

exploding in Q3 and Q4 this year and so you know what I think ultimately it will be good for

0:14.6

Bitcoin it could be quite volatile on the up and the downside.

0:18.0

Hello there how are you all I finally left Miami our trip has finished. I'm in New York I'm filming for a film and then I'm going to be flying back to bed for tonight.

0:28.0

Can't wait. Can't wait to get home but it's been an incredible trip.

0:31.0

Also we have just announced our first trip to Australia. Yes, September

0:36.0

the 9th we're going to be in Sydney we're going to be recording our live show.

0:39.8

If you want to get a ticket for that head head over to what Bitcoin did dot com and click on

0:43.7

WBD live. Can't wait to get down under.

0:46.4

Anyway, welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast, which is brought to you by Iris Energy,

0:51.0

the largest Nasdaq listed Bitcoin, using 100% renewable energy.

0:55.0

I'm your host Peter McCormack, and today I've got an absolute bang for you.

0:59.0

We dragged Arthur Hayes away from a bachelor party and sat down him for an hour, got into money printing,

1:04.7

debt jubiles, and an impending financial crisis.

1:08.0

And also, we covered why he travels with a suitcase full of cuddly toys.

1:11.7

Now, I know you're're gonna love this one.

1:12.9

It is an absolute banger.

1:14.3

If you got any questions about this

1:15.3

or anything else, you can drop me an email.

1:17.0

It's hello at what Bitcoin did.

1:20.1

You followed Wrexham, the team that Ryan Reynolds bought?

1:25.0

No.

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