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Talking Feds

A Darker Turn

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

As the country reels from the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, Harry welcomes a special all-Contrarian panel of George Conway, Norm Eisen, and Jen Rubin to grapple with the attack's aftershocks. Has the country taken a yet darker turn, with political violence now in the mix? Will Trump seek to institute a crackdown on his critics? And has Kash Patel’s leadership weakened the FBI’s ability to respond effectively and impartially to a rising tide of politically motivated attacks?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Talking Feds, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests

0:14.0

for a dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal topics of the day.

0:19.0

I'm Harry Littman and this is our periodic

0:22.4

contrarian episode with guests drawn from the ranks of the contrarian's strong and deep

0:29.1

bench. It was a week that saw the country convulsed by the stunning killing of the

0:34.9

prominent conservative activist Charlie Kirk at a public

0:39.0

event in Utah.

0:41.0

As we wait to learn more about the suspect and his motivations, the broader political impact

0:46.8

of the killing was already stark.

0:50.0

In these royal blood-red moments, the country expects the president to issue a unifying call to rise above partisanship and hate.

1:00.3

Not so Donald Trump, who used the event to polarize and gain political advantage.

1:06.8

Trump told the nation that, quote, radical left lunatics are out there and quote,

1:11.9

we just have to beat the hell out of them.

1:15.3

How Trump's intemperate response will influence the country's fury and divisions in the coming days

1:21.2

remains to be seen.

1:23.4

But his absence of any public spirit and his inability to see past his own narrow interests

1:30.9

have never been clear.

1:33.6

The manhunt for the killer put the FBI in the spotlight, especially in light of a broad-gaged

1:40.0

lawsuit from three former senior officials alleging a political takeover and hollowing out of

1:47.7

professional standards at the nation's highest law enforcement agency.

1:52.5

The gist of the allegations was that, as with the Department of Justice, the Bureau has

1:59.1

been transformed into Trump's private security patrol

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